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• Aug 19, 2023

Interview With TV Girl

Had the chance to catch up with Brad Petering and Jason Wyman of America’s favorite indie band, TV Girl . Having released several records and garnering a cult following over the years, during the pandemic they were found by the TikTok crowd. The band tours frequently across the globe at sold out venues and last year I was lucky enough to accompany them as their opener on tour.

Their new gospel-inspired record, Grapes Upon The Vine , was released this summer.

Without further ado, Brad and Jason of TV Girl talk about their inspirations, music-making and more.

BRAD PETERING

Synth History: What inspired you to start making music?

Brad: I’ve been in a band since I was in the 6th grade. I don’t know why I was drawn to that. My sister was really into music, she probably introduced me to real bands and stuff.

Synth History: What were some things you were listening to when you were growing up?

Brad: I really liked the Bee Gees when I was growing up. That was my favorite band as a kid. Then, when I was a little older, I had an aunt who took me CD shopping. I got Beck’s Odelay , the Sublime self-titled album, the Jamiroquai album that had “ Virtual Insanity” on it [ Traveling Without Moving ], all on the same day. Those were pretty good, they hold up. It’s kind of cool, because a lot of people are pretty embarrassed by their first CDs, but I still love all those albums.

Synth History: What did you play in your first band and were you singing?

Brad: Yeah, I was the singer and I played guitar. It was me and Ian, my best friend back then. He lived down the street from this guy who was older who was in a band who gave us guitar lessons. Looking back on it, it was pretty cool because he was basically giving us songwriting lessons and “being in a band” lessons. It was me and Ian doing it together. He taught us chords and stuff and was like, “here’s how you construct a song, a song is like a verse, a chorus and a bridge and an outro and a solo…” So that’s kind of cool. I think I was lucky to have that guy. I don’t even remember his name… damn. I wonder what happened to him. I wish I could remember his name, I’d love to Google him.

Synth History: Tell me the transition between making music when you were younger to TV Girl.

Brad: I’ve been in bands in some form or another since I was in 6th grade. I’ve always been in a band since then. I had a bunch of different bands throughout highschool. I had a band in college and then when I was in college me and my friend [Trung], who I went to highschool with in San Diego, we both skateboarded, he wanted to form a band. So we formed another band called the Whale Tales, then we had a band called The Movers and Shakers. TV Girl started because there was this other band from San Diego called Cults - who are really big on TikTok now - but they were like an overnight sensation on the blogosphere.

Synth History: I remember!

Brad: They were from San Diego and we were sort of friends with them. We were like, “I wonder if we could do that? We could make Chillwave music.” I was starting to make hip hop beats at the time on the computer and the bands we were in before were like Beatles-influenced, rock throwback bands, so we tried to combine that hip hop production with girl group song structures. That was TV Girl. We recorded four songs and just put it out and it kind of worked. We sent it out to 50 blogs and then it was on Pitchfork in a week. It got Best New Track on Pitchfork, which was insane. It was insane that it used to be like that, [Best New Track] was a big deal back in the day. It’s so funny, that happened to a lot of bands, and we weren’t really even a band. We had just recorded those four songs. We had never played live, we didn’t have any other material or anything.

Synth History: What was it like going from Pitchfork featuring you to then performing live?

Brad: We had to… learn. We had to get our shit together and learn to play live. It probably wasn’t very good in the beginning. It was just the two of us, so we had to recruit our friends to just make a rock band and do like, rock band versions of the songs which probably wasn’t that great.

Synth History: So who was it right in the beginning?

Brad: It was me and Trung and that was pretty much like, “the band”, and then Jason came in a little later.

Synth History: Do you remember any of the original gear you were using, was it mainly sampling on the computer?

Brad: It was all on Logic. Sampling just opened up a whole new world but I’ve never been a gearhead.

Synth History: How do you know when you find a good sample?

Brad: Well, in the beginning I would listen to a lot of hip hop music and a lot of artists would sample the same stuff. Mostly it was soul or funk from the 70s. So you would find out what song they sampled and what album it was on and you would listen to that album. There was bound to be other good stuff on that same album. So, that’s how I did it a lot of the time. I used All Music Guide and I would just look up random bands. I still do this, they have like a rating system and if it was 5 stars, no matter what the genre was, I would always download it, back then illegally. That introduced me to a lot of new music. Even if I didn’t really like listening to it, I’d listen to it to look for samples or sounds or something.

I don’t know, sometimes there’s just a loop that you could imagine a hip hop beat under, this little four-bar section. But then other times if it sounds good you can just chop it up, there are endless possibilities. Usually I like very melodic, catchy things.

Synth History: You’re a great lyricist, are there any lyricists that you’re inspired by?

Brad: Definitely, Leonard Cohen is a big one and Bob Dylan. Elvis Costello is one of my favorites. I also like stuff that isn’t so overtly poetic like Carole King. I really liked Outkast back then, they were very inspiring.

Synth History: Do you write lyrics before the instrumental is made or after - does it all kind of depend?

Brad: For TV Girl, and if I’m writing any other kind of music, it always starts with the chords, or just the loop and usually as the loop is playing I can just start thinking of something, or start humming along to it and the words start to fit in.

Synth History: Are you ever in the shower or something and a phrase comes to you?

Brad: Definitely. Sometimes I’ll listen to a song and it’s really catchy and the melody is really catchy and I’ll just start singing my own words to an already existing song and that’s a really good way to come up with lyrics.

Synth History: What are you currently inspired by now? It doesn’t have to be music, it could be anything, films, books, TV.

Brad: Well, I’m reading this book about the life of Marcel Duchamp, the artist. He’s a very inspiring character. He was a very original thinker. I don’t know, they don’t make ‘em like him very often, a true original. Everyone said he had a very magnetic quality, a charm and that he lived life on his own terms and didn’t give a fuck about anyone other than himself. I play a lot of chess and I skateboard, those are my hobbies that I’m always thinking about a lot.

Synth History: And you’re really good at music trivia.

Brad: Yes, I do have an encyclopedic interest in music. It goes back to that All Music stuff. I would just always want to read about bands, even if I really didn’t like them.

Synth History: What is one album that you think everyone should listen to at least once in their lifetime?

Brad: The first thing that comes to my mind is Paul’s Boutique . It’s very special because you’re not even allowed to make albums like that anymore, because of legal issues, and also because there’s never going to be another Beastie Boys, ever. Just the combination of them, their personalities and the brand new technology of sampling. There’s no other album like it, it’s incredibly enjoyable and just rich. It can open a whole new world of music to somebody, like it did for me.

Synth History: What was it like when TV Girl blew up on TikTok?

Brad: Oh, I don’t know. I was just staying in New York in the middle of the pandemic. I don’t know how I found out this was happening, because I don’t use TikTok and it was probably pretty new back then, but I saw some things on Twitter and it was very apparent because everything on our Spotify started skyrocketing at the same time. And then when we eventually went on tour it was like… “ woah ”. It was completely different after that first tour, in good and bad ways.

Synth History: How was it different?

Brad: Our fan base is just a lot younger now. It used to be like college kids listening to TV Girl and now it’s high school kids or even younger. I mean, it’s nice to be liked by somebody. They’re probably the most intense audience, because nobody listens to music like a teenager, you don’t care about music as much in your life as you do when you’re a teenager.

Synth History: It’s true.

Brad Petering: But I don’t relate to them at the same time either.

Synth History: Well a part of you probably does?

Brad: I guess, but we're not a favorite of record nerds or anything. We used to be that, but maybe there’s still a holdover. When the TikTokers get a hold of it, it makes it not as special to some people. Overall though, I can’t complain, because we’re technically more successful, I mean way more successful and we make more money and we already had our period of being an underground band. We got to live that experience, too, and now this is something completely new.

Synth History: You know what the indie band struggle was like.

Brad: We definitely did.

Synth History: What were the early days of tour like?

Brad: I was so naive back then. I look back on it and it’s crazy that we… I don’t know, I was really excited to go on our first tour but at half the shows nobody was there. We played like dive bars. To me, looking back on it, if the prospect was going out knowing we were going to play to nobody in bumfuck bars, that would be so scary and I’d probably feel very depressed going into it, if I had to start doing that again. Back then it was super fun, though, just traveling around the country with my friends, I didn’t care. I felt lucky to be doing it.

Synth History: Can you tell me some memorable moments, when you were coming up with the biggest TV Girl songs, namely “Lovers Rock” and “Not Allowed”?

Brad: I remember making them, but there’s no real story. I would just sit in my apartment writing them. For “ Lovers Rock ”, I was staying at my sister's apartment while she was gone. I think I was supposed to go on a date that night and she canceled, that might have been what it was. I just sat at home and wrote the song instead. Things would have been a lot different if I went on that crappy date.

Synth History: TV Girl has a new album in the works. Can you tell me anything about it?

Brad: It’s our fourth major full length record. We haven’t put one out in like five years. Partly because we were so busy touring off the old songs that blew up and the pandemic and everything. It’s a gospel-themed concept, using a lot of gospel samples and gospel tropes. We got an actual gospel singer by the name of Makeda and she’s amazing. We found her because we looked at the liner notes of a Girls album. You remember that band? They had a gospel singer in one of their songs so we looked at the credits and tracked her down. She’s amazing and has so many fucking stories. She knows everyone. She was friends with Art Laboe and was the replacement singer for that band Rose Royce, they did the” Car Wash” song. She toured with Ziggy Marley for years and years and years. She’s so funny and so great.

Synth History: Will she go on tour with you?

Brad: We haven’t really started thinking about how we’re going to deal with the gospel singing, which is such an integral part of this new album. But maybe, she went on tour with Girls. They were just in an Econoline van and she assembled a whole trio of gospel singers to tour with them. She's definitely down but she’s very busy, too.

Synth History: Do you have a projected timeline for the release?

Brad: It’s still up in the air, we’re hoping to do it in July. We have to clear the samples which takes a long time. It’s our first time doing it the legitimate way which is a pain in the ass. I miss the old days.

Synth History: Do you have any advice for a band touring for the early days? Maybe advice you would tell your younger self?

Brad: I feel like I had the right attitude about it back then. Even if you go on a flop of a tour, you’re still doing something that most people don’t get to do and at the very least you’re getting to see the country and having adventures. I think everyone should do that at least once. It’s cool to see the country. I mean, you could go on a road trip, but when you’re in a band on tour you have a mission every day. It’s you and your friends against the world.

Synth History: How do you feel when you get back from a tour?

Brad: I’m happy to be home. They usually go on too long for my taste. I feel like two weeks would be the perfect amount, but it just doesn’t make sense logistically.

Synth History: Do you have any tips to get over writer’s block?

Brad: Luckily that’s never been a problem for me. I have the opposite problem. I come up with too much stuff and don’t get around to recording it all. I’ve always found it easy to come up with new stuff. Maybe a good tip would be: if you’ve already run your personal life dry you can always write from some other perspective. You don’t have to always write as yourself. You probably shouldn’t always write as yourself. Maybe from the perspective of someone from a movie or a book. If I really have nothing else that’s always a good backup. There’s only so much to mine your personal life for, especially if your life is going good.

Synth History: The better off you are, sometimes the less you have to say.

Brad: You gotta get your heart broken, you can utilize that. But if you’re not in that phase in your life, you can always make something up.

Synth History: I know you’re not a gear head, but if you had to pick, what are some of your favorite synthesizers?

Brad: Oh fuck. I guess old, cheap Casios are my favorites, like dinky-sounding things, especially if they have the preset chords. Those are always fun to mess around with. There’s this one old Casio that’s very sought after, it’s called the Rapman, with the fake turntable scratcher. You can scratch the notes and it has a very cool set up, drum tones that I’ve used in songs. Most of my experience with synths is downloading drum packs for various synths and drum machines.

Synth History: Any other gear that you’re particularly fond of?

Brad: I’m very into the old school Tascam 8-Tracks. I made my first music on digital Tascams, but now I’ve gotten into collecting and recording on the old tape ones. Which is very hard to do.

Synth History: Do you find that there is a difference between analog tape and digital?

Brad: Yeah, the limitation of only being able to record on four tracks is super interesting to me. I was making a record during the pandemic that never came out, it was piano, vibraphone, drum machine and singing, so only four elements. That was the idea. Just get it down to four, because you can only record four before you have to start mixing down tracks and balancing it, which kind of destroys the sound quality. You can do more than that, but it’s best to stick to four. For the old Guided By Voices albums, it’s funny, you can hear what they had to sacrifice if they wanted a double vocal take. They would have to have the guitar and the bass playing in the same room at the same time on one mic, or just have no bass take. So if you listen to those old records you can tell that there’s just four things going on in every single song. The way they creatively get around the limitations of that is very cool. I usually like to double track my voice, so I really have to record differently when I’m using that thing.

Synth History: Do you record at home and then go into a studio?

Brad: Mostly it’s just laboring on a computer. Everything is done here or at Jason’s house which is a home studio, too.

JASON WYMAN

Synth History: How did you first get into being a musician?

Jason: I banged on pots and pans as a kid. I chipped my mom’s tile in the kitchen. I was always drumming. When I was 5, I begged my parents to take piano lessons. That’s where I got started. I took piano lessons for a bunch of years and somewhere around middle school I joined the school band and switched to drums. That’s when I was like, “oh, I really found my thing!” I’ve always been obsessed with music. I don’t think there was a moment I became a musician, it was just always there.

Synth History: Did you have a drum set in your house when you were a kid?

Jason: Yeah, I would say around 11 or 12 I got my first little cheap drum kit. I couldn’t believe it, but my parents pretty much let me drum at any hour. Which is insane because I can’t stand hearing other people drum.

Synth History: They never told you to keep it down?

Jason: No, it was a very cacophonous house. Two stories, with a very central area. So the drums would just boom through the house and I think the drums were right below their bedroom, so there was like no point in telling me to keep it down.

Synth History: Were there any drummers or musicians that you looked up to growing up?

Jason: As a kid, you know, the usual suspects that every drum student is supposed to look up to, like Ringo and John Bonham. At some point, I got turned on to all the different drummers of James Brown. That’s really when it started to click for me. I’ve never been a super showy drummer, I’ve always just sort of enjoyed the groove. I started learning about Clyde Stubblefield and my drum teacher started making me play a lot of those grooves, that’s when it finally clicked for me. I loved this band growing up called The Walkmen, they have a drummer named Matt Barrick who is amazing. I was really inspired by those kinds of drummers who just held it down.

Then, my dad. He was never a professional musician, but he plays piano. He has perfect pitch, which is amazing, but annoying as a kid, because he could be in the other room and I would play a wrong note on the piano and he would call out the note. He would be like, “B Flat!” So yeah, those were the people I looked up to.

Synth History: When did you start making music with other people?

Jason: I had a couple of bands in high school and college, you know. I was interested early on in recording them. I think that’s just like a normal path for a drummer who doesn’t get to write songs, you’re like, “Ok, what can I do?” You learn how to record. The story of TV Girl is, I met Brad when we were studying abroad in London together. Brad showed me some of his really early stuff - he was and still is a garage band boy. I thought it was so cool, like I had discovered these diamonds in the rough, these songs that were so good. Flash forward a few years and we were working together. After college, I went to recording school for nine months and learned how to do all the engineering side. That’s when it actually got serious. I had no job and thought, “well, what am I going to do with my life”. So, I went to work in a studio after recording school.

Synth History: What studio did you work at?

Jason: Capitol Studios. I got a job at Capitol Studios and I was the coffee boy. I was the intern first and then I got finally hired on as this like… they called it “setup assistant”. It was a very structured, big studio. I wanted to work there because they had pretty normal hours compared to other studios, right? With other studios in the area you can be there til 3 or 4 in the morning. I was like, “I do not want to be that guy!”.

Capitol is this big storied place where they have huge string sessions come in. It’s very structured and goes from 8AM to 10PM and I was like, “perfect”. I worked there and it was fantastic. Everyone was at the top of their game, but the moment I got hired, I would say a few months before I got hired on, this producer John Brion moved into studio B and is a vampire. He'd work from 6PM and leave at 8AM. They needed people to work that shift, so they were like, “Jason, congratulations you’re hired, you have the midnight to 8AM shift” and I lasted like a month. I was getting him quadruple espressos at 3 in the morning and just thought, “what am I doing with my life?”

I realized I still loved this world, but I wasn’t sure where I fit into it. I was still really young. Right around this time is when TV Girl just kind of popped off. I made that my main focus and we just kind of started touring and making music from there.

Synth History: Do you remember some of your first TV Girl shows? What were they like?

Jason: They were really small. You know, we paid our dues. We’re a sample-based indie pop band and I think the first few years we were really trying to figure out how to take this sound that's made in a bedroom, as you see from the photos, and turn it into something that translates live. That was a year-long journey for us. We started out with just a traditional rock band, and then added an SPDS that was triggering some background samples. After a few years of that and playing in small clubs to 50-100 people - I still remember the shows where like two people came - we switched it up and went fully electronic with Ableton and keyboards and drum pads and samplers and stuff like that. We really started developing our sound. It was years of grinding it out in small clubs and bars and we just did it because we loved it and didn’t know what else to do.

Synth History: TV Girl is pretty popular now! What was the transition like from smaller shows to a bigger audience?

Jason: Well, I mean, we were lucky that we had a cult following for pretty much the whole of the band’s career that started with the blog era, all the way back in 2012. So the fans that were with us for several years were like these hipster kids who were our age, who were really into music and discovering us that way and that was cool. We just slowly grew our audience over the years. And then, obviously, something happened over covid. TikTok discovered us. Sitting at home over the pandemic and watching these songs blow up was pretty surreal. To just literally be sitting in my apartment and watching these numbers go up and just wondering what’s going to happen when we go on tour, because, by the metrics our band is like 5 times as popular as it was before the pandemic. Sure enough, it was a totally different feeling to be on tour in much larger rooms and much younger crowds. We love our TikTok kids, it’s just so cool to play, as you know now, for these people who are really into music in a different way. It’s part of their formative experience and that’s really really fun. So that’s what it was like. It’s still kind of surreal, knowing that we’ve just been doing it for so many years and then all of the sudden it just exploded.

Synth History: Do you remember when you were a teenager, the bands that were forming you?

Jason: 100%. Like I said, The Walkmen, I was a superfan. They just reunited, by the way. I just saw them and it was amazing! I remember being in high school and very much laying claim to liking the indie rock world. I grew up in San Diego. There were the emo kids, there were the metal kids, there were the classic rock kids, there were the reggae kids. I was an indie rock kid. So that meant, The Strokes, the Velvet Underground, Neutral Milk Hotel, The New Pornographers, Modest Mouse, Belle & Sebastian, Yo La Tengo. Stuff like that really informed me for my formative years. I remember that feeling of music just being so important and being a part of your identity back then.

Synth History: It must be cool performing for a younger crowd knowing that they’ll probably remember your shows forever, in a different way than say an older person might?

Jason: I think you’re exactly right. It does feel good but it also feels kind of daunting. I remember this one experience in Tacoma, Washington. We played this tiny little place called Joe’s Java Jive, it was shaped like a teapot. I had slept in the van the night before and my back hurt. I was just kind of over touring at that point. The sound was shitty and we had two paying customers. I was just so fed up, I think, that I called the show after five songs, “Let’s get the fuck out of here”.

After the show we packed up, hung around and those two people came up to us and they were so happy to meet us. It was a couple and they had driven down from Bellevue, Washington, which was like a four hour drive. They had gotten a hotel, specifically to see us play. I felt so terrible that I was in a bad mood that night, because it dawned on me, that was the moment when I realized you never know who is out there and what it means to them. So I’ve tried to remember that. As we get older and more jaded and it becomes bigger and you connect less with each individual person, I just try to remember for those kids, this could be the most important event of their year. So I feel like there’s some responsibility there, to put on the best show.

Synth History: Let's talk about gear a little bit. I don’t get to interview too many drummers. For other drummers out there, is there a specific brand of kit you would recommend?

Jason: There is no right answer. I play Zildjian. I have a Gretsch Catalina drum kit. I’ve been tinkering with snare drums and trying to find “that snare”, the one that gives me the most flexibility for breakbeat stuff. I was using a Ludwig Supraphonic for a while, then I switched over to this cool snare called a ZIKIT that lets me switch the diameter of the drum between 10, 12 and 14, so I can get that tight-pop sound for the breakbeat thing and some fatter sounds. Then, I have my Roland SPDS for triggering samples and stuff like that.

Synth History: What do you think about drum machines?

Jason: We do almost everything in the box. We’ll use drum machine plug-ins and pull samples, we like to layer. I have been messing around with the Behringer RD-8 Rhythm Designer Analog Drum Machine, an 808 clone. It’s super awesome and I love to mess around with it. I don’t know if it’s actually made its debut on a TV Girl record yet.

Synth History: Do you think it will?

Jason: I think it’s possible. Brad has one as well. We’ve used the Boutique 808 on some side projects. We love to use that as the metronome and build stuff off of that.

Synth History: As someone who went to school for recording music, do you have any tips for people producing or engineering that you want to share?

Jason: Yeah! One thing they told me in school - that I was just too young to understand and didn’t want to believe - was that it takes time. I would impress that upon anyone. We all know what a good mix sounds like, but being able to make one takes years and I still don’t feel like I can do it. It’s just this process that is simply trial by error. Just give yourself time, make a lot of music and try to get your hands on everybody’s friend’s projects and just mix and make bad music until you make good music. And then the same thing goes for gear. TV Girl’s whole ethos, our whole career, just do what you can with what you have, you know?

So that means we’ve been using the same vocal microphone the whole time, that means we were using a two channel USB audio interface forever, and only recently we started upgrading. And yeah, you can hear a little bit of a difference but that’s not what matters. At the end of the day, it’s just making music with what you have. That’s what I’m most proud of for our band.

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Photos & interview conducted by Danz.

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TV Girl is an American indie pop band from San Diego, California, consisting of Brad Petering, Jason Wyman, and Wyatt Harmon. As of 2023, the group is based in Los Angeles.

The band released its debut EP in 2010 and a mixtape in 2012. It followed this with its debut album, French Exit , in 2014. Their second album, Who Really Cares , was released in 2016, with further albums following in 2018 and 2023, alongside collaborative albums and EPs.

• 1 Background
• 2.1 Influences
• 2.2 Musical style and songwriting
• 3.1 Studio albums
• 3.2 Collaborative albums
• 3.3 Mixtapes
• 3.4 Extended plays
• 3.5 Singles
• 3.6 Other charted and certified songs
• 3.8 Produced albums

Background [ ]

In 2010, TV Girl first attracted attention when they sampled Todd Rundgren's 1973 solo version of "Hello It's Me" on their song "If You Want It" from their self-titled debut EP. Rhino Entertainment, which owns full rights to the original song, issued a takedown notice on the band and the song was excluded from their debut EP Bandcamp page later.

TV Girl's 2012 mixtape, The Wild, The Innocent, The TV Shuffle , was released and given away for free with an accompanying downloadable coloring book. The release would have constituted their debut album, but according to Petering and Ngo the work was more appropriately defined as a mixtape.

TV Girl's 2014 debut album French Exit was called "remarkably solid" by Bandwagon Magazine .

Artistry [ ]

Influences [ ].

TV Girl frequently samples songs and media from the 1960s in their music. An example of this is seen in the song "Lovers' Rock," where the backing track is created from a looped sample of the intro to The Shirelles' single "The Dance is Over", which was originally released in 1960. In a post to Reddit, Petering writes he "..never gets tired of seeking out old and obscure music. I listen to lots of music and I find my loops and sounds that way."

Musical style and songwriting [ ]

Similarly to trip hop, the band blends elements of hip hop and electronic music. This is due to their use of sampling, keyboards, and reverb effects. The duo was upset when their music was labeled "sundrenched California pop," pointing out that there are no lyrical allusions in their music that warrant the title.

Lyrically, a majority of TV Girl's discography revolves around love and relationships. One example of this could be the song "Lover's Rock", a love ballad named after the reggae sub-genre of lovers' rock. Their subject matter is nostalgic and sad, but simultaneously sarcastic and humorous. Some motifs in the duo's lyrics include women, heartbreak, cynicism, memories, cigarettes, hair, women's first names, and loneliness.

Discography [ ]

Studio albums [ ].

• French Exit (2014)
• Who Really Cares (2016)
• Death of a Party Girl (2018)
• Grapes Upon the Vine (2023)

Collaborative albums [ ]

• Maddie Acid's Purple Hearts Club Band (2018) (with Madison Acid)
• Aestheticadelica (2020) (with Bloodbath64)
• Summer's Over (2021) (with Jordana)
• Ace of Tre (2023) (with Varial Heel)

Mixtapes [ ]

• The Wild, The Innocent, The TV Shuffle (2012)

Extended plays [ ]

• TV Girl (2010)
• Benny and the Jetts (2011)
• Lonely Women (2013)
• The Night in Question: French Exit Outtakes (2020)

Singles [ ]

• "Girls Like Me" (2011)
• "Diet-Coke" (2012)
• "She Smokes in Bed" (2013)
• "Natalie Wood" (2015)
• "Average Guy (Blame)" (2013) (re-released in 2023)

Other charted and certified songs [ ]

• Blurry Girls (Demos, Unreleased Songs, and Other Ephemera) (2012)

Produced albums [ ]

• Posthumous Release (2013) (by Coma Cinema)
• Ace Of Tre (2023) (by Varial Heel)
• 1 Ayesha Erotica
• 2 Kfir Ochaion

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By john taylor, august 9, 2012.

Is it possible to weep with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek? TV Girl seems to think so. The duo’s biggest hit to date, the Todd Rundgren-sampling “If You Want It” is a breakup anthem, but a playful one. With sonic architecture firmly grounded in the refrain that opens Rundgren’s 1968 Billboard monster “Hello It’s Me,” band members Trung Ngo and Brad Petering reappraise the somber ’60s hit for the dance floor. The narrator, reliably modern and perhaps a bit too jaded, knows how to chuckle at himself despite heartbreak: “When the weekend rolls around / you’ll want it, and you’ll get it,” he sighs.

As TV Girl, Ngo and Petering saddle the blurred line between sadness and nostalgia, irony and true humor. “Our friends tried to start a rival band called Radio Boy,” Petering says, laughing. “I don’t think they ever made it. They’re too underground.” For their latest release, The Wild, The Innocent, The TV Shuffle mixtape, the two drew literal lines—including a download of a coloring book to accompany the new music. “I haven’t [colored it], but a lot of people have,” Petering notes with pause. “I wasn’t expecting that.”

We’re pleased to debut the video for “Misery,” the latest single from The Wild, The Innocent, The TV Shuffle , below. Our conversation with the band follows, in which we discuss strategies for impressing Parks & Recreation star Aubrey Plaza, video games, a missed opportunity with the Beastie Boys, mixtapes, and military food.

AGE: 24 and 24. Collectively 48 years old.

HOMETOWN: San Diego

LOCATION AT TIME OF INTERVIEW: Trung Ngo : Los Angeles. We wanted to be where the beautiful people are.

LIFE GOALS: Brad Petering : My goal is to end up at a party with Aubrey Plaza. Do you know Aubrey Plaza? I just want to be at the same party and have a shot at normal conversation [with her]. I’m not asking to like, sleep with her or anything. I just want a shot. An opportunity. That’s all I’m asking for. I mean, I don’t know what parties she’ll be at, or if we’ll ever be at the same party. But, that’s my goal. Maybe we’ll hit it off.

EARLIEST MUSICAL MEMORY: Petering : Video game music, probably. That was what I listened to before I bought CDs, which is pretty funny to think about. I remember playing Sonic the Hedgehog . I remember vividly that it had a cool soundtrack that I really liked. I remember getting songs from that game stuck in my head. I beat the game. There’s this really hard level with air jets that spray you and fuck you up.

WORST DESCRIPTION OF YOUR MUSIC: Ngo : “Sundrenched California pop.” I think someone read it in a bio, and then everyone picked it up in every single description of us. The California waves, sun rays… it’s horrible! It’s weird that people pick up on that, because there’s absolutely no lyrical allusions to it.

DESCRIBING YOUR MUSIC TO A FIVE-YEAR-OLD: Ngo : I would describe [our music] as, “You can sing along to it, but I wouldn’t sing around your parents.”

MISSING OUT ON THE BEASTIE BOYS: Petering : My sister was a Beastie Boys fanatic when I was in the fifth grade and she was in the eighth grade. And I didn’t like the Beastie Boys [at the time] because I didn’t like whatever my sister liked. I made it a point not to like it. But she was obsessed, and convinced my dad to go to a Beastie Boys concert [with her]. My dad used to be in the military, so he brought these bulletproof headphones—sound-dampening headphones. He wore those the whole time, and said [the concert] was the loudest thing he had ever heard in his life. And that his ears were ringing for three days afterwards. [ sighs ] My dad has been to a Beastie Boys concert, and I never will.

SURVIVAL KIT: Ngo : Beef jerky, mostly.

Petering : I have MREs in my closet. “Meals ready to eat.” It’s what the military uses to feed their soldiers; rationed food. My dad was very into survival kits. People always laugh at me, but if you really think about it, it is a smart thing to have. I have two boxes full. They’re supposed to last a couple of months. [MREs] are super compacted and calorie-rich, but don’t taste as good as normal food. My dad once told me the history of MREs. He told me that when he was in the military, they were pure protein bars with a horrible, disgusting taste. [Then the military] did a bunch of studies and found that morale in those kinds of situations… people need actual food to keep their sanity. So it’s like real food. Parmesan chicken dinner, pasta… it’s normal food, but really nasty versions of normal food.

THE THING ABOUT MIXTAPES: Petering : What makes a rap album a mixtape and not an album? A mixtape is sort of meant to be less official. We didn’t want to call this our debut album, because it’s more… it didn’t just feel that way. We didn’t record it the way most people would record a debut album. But other than that, it’s pretty subjective. We gave it away for free, which is another characteristic of mixtapes in general. But you’re right. It is a pretty silly distinction. I mean, it pretty much is an album for all intents and purposes. Although, there’s less rapping.

NO COLLABS, NO PROBLEMS: Petering : I’m rarely, rarely thrilled by news of a collaboration. I mean, look at the Gorillaz and LCD Soundsystem and André 3000 collaboration. All those people are great, but that song was just horrible. There was no reason to do that. They just did it because they were famous, basically. A remix I would do, though. I’m down. [ pauses ] Sorry…. things just got a little real.

THE FUTURE: Ngo : We’re working on our debut record right now. Just got back from the first sessions in a cabin in Tahoe, Bon Iver style. We’re working on coming up with a non-boring live show for a big ol’ tour. Most importantly, we’re working on finding some good day jobs to help us prop up this indie-rock dream that seems to be perpetually on the verge of collapse. Got any good leads? I know Photoshop.

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TV Girl is an American indie pop band that has recently gained popularity. The band consists of Brad Petering, Jason Wyman, and Wyatt Harmon and was formed in San Diego, California. As of 2023, the group is based in Los Angeles. TV Girl has released several EPs, mixtapes, and albums since their formation in 2010.

TV Girl’s music is characterized by its lo-fi sound, catchy melodies, and witty lyrics. The band’s musical style draws inspiration from various genres, including indie rock, pop, and hip-hop. Their songs often feature samples from old movies and TV shows, adding to their unique sound.

Key Takeaways

• TV Girl is an American indie pop band consisting of Brad Petering, Jason Wyman, and Wyatt Harmon.
• The band has released several EPs, mixtapes, and albums since their formation in 2010.
• TV Girl’s music is characterized by its lo-fi sound, catchy melodies, and witty lyrics, and it draws inspiration from various genres.

TV Girl Origins

Band formation.

TV Girl was formed in 2010 by Trung Ngo and Brad Petering in San Diego, California. The two friends started making music together as a leisure activity with no particular ambition other than experimenting and hanging out. They created their first EP, “TV Girl,” in 2010, a lo-fi, sample-heavy collection of songs quickly gaining popularity on the internet.

The band’s name comes from a lyric in the song “TV Girls” by The Loves, a British indie-pop band. According to Petering, the name “just sounded cool” and fit the band’s aesthetic.

Early Influences

Various genres, including indie pop, hip-hop, and electronic music, heavily influence TV Girl’s music. Some of the band’s early influences include The Beach Boys, The Beatles, and The Velvet Underground.

In an interview with The San Diego Union-Tribune, Petering cited artists such as J Dilla, Madlib, and MF DOOM as major inspirations for his production style. He also mentioned the band’s love for vintage soul and R&B music, which can be heard in their heavy use of samples from old records.

Overall, TV Girl’s early music was characterized by its lo-fi sound, heavy use of samples, and dreamy, nostalgic atmosphere. The band’s unique style quickly gained a following on the internet, leading to the release of several more EPs and full-length albums over the years.

Discography

Studio albums.

TV Girl has released four studio albums to date. The first, French Exit , was released in 2014. It features a mix of indie pop, surf rock, and hip-hop. The album includes popular tracks such as “Birds Don’t Sing” and “Laura.”

Their second album, Who Really Cares , was released in 2016. It features a more subdued sound than their first album and includes tracks such as “Taking What’s Not Yours” and “Hate Yourself.”

In 2018, TV Girl released their third studio album, Death of a Party Girl . This album features a more electronic sound than their previous albums and includes tracks such as “Drift Down” and “I Wonder Who She’s Kissing Now.”

Their most recent album, “Grapes Upon The Vine,” was released in 2023. It features a mix of electronic and indie pop sounds and includes tracks such as “The Night Time” and “Heaven Over Our Heads.”

EPs and Singles

TV Girl has also released several EPs and singles throughout their career. In 2010, they released their first three EPs: TV Girl , Benny and the Jet ts, and Girls Like Me. These EPs feature a mix of indie pop and hip-hop sounds.

In 2012, TV Girl released their first mixtape, The Wild, the Innocent, and the TV Shuffle . This mixtape features samples from classic rock songs and includes tracks such as “If You Want It” and “Lizzy Come Back to Life.”

In 2023, TV Girl released their first single in several years, “Lost in Translation.” The single features a more electronic sound than their previous releases and includes a remix by electronic artist Com Truise.

Notable Hits

TV Girl has had several notable hits throughout their career. “Birds Don’t Sing” and “Laura” from their debut album, French Exit, are two of their most popular tracks. “Taking What’s Not Yours” from their second album, Who Really Cares, is also a fan favorite.

In 2020, TV Girl released “King of Echo Park,” a single with a more electronic sound than their previous releases. The track was well-received by fans and critics alike.

Overall, TV Girl has a diverse discography featuring indie pop, surf rock, hip hop, and electronic sounds. Their music is known for its catchy melodies, clever lyrics, and unique sampling techniques.

Musical Style

Genre characteristics.

TV Girl’s musical style is often described as indie pop, with hip-hop, dream pop, and chillwave elements. The band heavily relies on samples, often taken from old movies, TV shows, and other sources, to create a nostalgic and dreamy atmosphere. The samples are often manipulated and chopped up, creating a collage-like effect. The band’s music is characterized by its lo-fi sound, focusing on melody and catchy hooks. The instrumentation is usually minimal, with simple drum beats, keyboards, and guitars.

Lyrical Themes

TV Girl’s lyrics often deal with love, relationships, and nostalgia themes. The band’s songs often have a melancholic and introspective tone, with witty and heartfelt lyrics. Many of the songs deal with the complexities of modern relationships, exploring the ups and downs of love and heartbreak. The band’s lyrics often reference pop culture and media, with nods to movies, TV shows, and other forms of entertainment. Overall, TV Girl’s music is known for its unique blend of genres and ability to evoke nostalgia and longing.

Band Members

Current lineup.

TV Girl is a three-piece indie pop band from California. The current lineup includes Brad Petering on vocals and guitar, Jason Wyman on drums, and Wyatt Harmon on keys. The band’s music is characterized by its dreamy, lo-fi sound and clever lyrics.

Brad Petering is the lead singer and songwriter of the band. He is known for his distinctive voice and quirky lyrics. Jason Wyman is the drummer and provides the backbone of the band’s sound. Wyatt Harmon plays the keyboard and provides the band’s signature sound. Together, the three members of TV Girl create a unique sound that is both catchy and thought-provoking.

Past Members

TV Girl has had a few past members who have contributed to the band’s sound. These members include:

• Trung Ngo: Trung Ngo played bass for TV Girl during the band’s early years. He contributed to the band’s first EP, “TV Girl EP,” and their debut album, “French Exit.”
• Vince Rossi: Vince Rossi played guitar for TV Girl during the band’s early years. He contributed to the band’s first EP, “TV Girl EP,” and their debut album, “French Exit.”
• Tim Hines: Tim Hines played drums for TV Girl during the band’s early years. He contributed to the band’s first EP, “TV Girl EP,” and their debut album, “French Exit.”

While these past members are no longer with the band, their contributions helped shape TV Girl’s sound in its early years.

Live Performances

Touring history.

TV Girl has been touring extensively since their formation in 2010. They have performed in venues across the United States and Europe, including The Echo in Los Angeles, The Bowery Ballroom in New York City, and The Garage in London. They have also played in smaller, more intimate venues, such as The Empty Bottle in Chicago and The Sunset Tavern in Seattle.

In 2021, TV Girl embarked on a tour to celebrate their 6 1/2-year anniversary. The tour kicked off at The Southside Ballroom in downtown Dallas, Texas, and included stops in major cities such as New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. Fans can expect a high-energy performance from the band, with catchy melodies and witty lyrics.

Festival Appearances

TV Girl has also made appearances at several music festivals over the years. In 2013, they performed at the Culture Collide Festival in Los Angeles alongside indie favorites such as The Raveonettes and The Dodos. They also played at the Noise Pop Festival in San Francisco in 2014, sharing the stage with acts like Real Estate and Dr. Dog.

In 2022, TV Girl is scheduled to perform at the Treefort Music Fest in Boise, Idaho. The festival is known for its eclectic lineup, featuring a mix of established and up-and-coming artists from various genres. TV Girl’s performance will surely be a festival highlight, showcasing their unique brand of indie pop to a diverse audience.

Overall, TV Girl’s live performances testify to their talent and versatility as musicians. Whether playing in a small club or on a festival stage, they never fail to captivate their audience with their infectious energy and catchy tunes.

Media Presence

TV Girl has a strong media presence, with a significant following on social media platforms and several popular music videos.

Music Videos

TV Girl has released many popular music videos, including “Birds Don’t Sing,” “Heather,” and “Pantyhose.” These videos have been viewed millions of times on YouTube and have helped to establish TV Girl as a prominent figure in the indie music scene.

One of the most notable aspects of TV Girl’s music videos is their distinctive visual style. The videos often feature vintage footage and other retro elements, creating a nostalgic and dreamlike atmosphere that complements the band’s music.

Social Media Engagement

TV Girl has a strong presence on social media, with active accounts on platforms like Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. The band uses these platforms to connect with fans, share updates about upcoming shows and releases, and promote their music.

TV Girl’s social media accounts are characterized by a playful and irreverent tone, focusing on humor and self-deprecation. This approach has helped cultivate a strong sense of community among the band’s fans, who often engage with each other and TV Girl’s members on social media.

Overall, TV Girl’s media presence is a key part of their success as a band. Their music videos and social media accounts have helped to establish them as a unique and distinctive voice in the indie music scene, and have helped to build a strong and dedicated fanbase.

Critical Reception

Album reviews.

TV Girl’s music has received mixed reviews from critics. Their latest album, released in 2023, has been particularly divisive. Some critics praised the album’s experimental sound and the band’s willingness to take risks, while others criticized it for straying too far from their signature sound.

One reviewer from The Mac Weekly wrote that the album “necessarily defies expectations and succeeds” while acknowledging that “enough fans were outspokenly disappointed with the new record, likely due to the shift in sound.” Another review from Bustle noted that the band’s previous critical view on LA’s sex and drug-obsessed world was absent from the album, which may have contributed to the mixed reception.

Industry Awards

Despite the mixed reviews, TV Girl has received recognition from industry awards. In 2022, the band was nominated for Best Alternative Album at the Grammy Awards for their previous album. Although they did not win, the band’s nomination was considered a significant achievement.

TV Girl has also received recognition from independent music awards. In 2021, they won Best Indie Pop Band at the Independent Music Awards. Industry insiders have praised the band’s unique sound and willingness to experiment, and they are seen as an up-and-coming force in the indie music scene.

Influence and Legacy

Impact on indie music.

TV Girl has significantly impacted the indie music scene since their debut in 2010. Their unique sound, which blends indie pop, hip-hop, and electronic music elements, has been praised by critics and fans alike. Their use of samples from old movies, TV shows, and commercials has also been influential, inspiring other artists to experiment with similar techniques.

TV Girl’s music has been described as “nostalgic” and “dreamy,” focusing on catchy melodies and clever lyrics. Their debut album, French Exit, was particularly well-received, with Pitchfork calling it “a breezy, endlessly replayable collection of songs that feel like they’ve always existed.”

Collaborations with Other Artists

TV Girl has collaborated with several other artists throughout their careers, including RAC, Wished Bone, and Madeline Kenney. These collaborations have allowed TV Girl to expand their sound and experiment with new styles and genres.

One notable collaboration was with French singer/songwriter Sarah Maison, with whom they released the single “Taking a Chance” in 2022. The song features Maison’s breathy vocals over TV Girl’s signature dreamy instrumentation, creating a unique and memorable sound.

Overall, TV Girl’s influence and legacy in the indie music scene can be seen through the number of artists inspired by their sound and style. Their use of samples and focus on melody and lyrics have set them apart from other indie bands, and their collaborations with other artists have allowed them to continue to evolve and grow.

Frequently Asked Questions

Who are the current members of tv girl.

TV Girl is a Los Angeles-based American band comprising Brad Petering, Jason Wyman, and Wyatt Harmon. Brad Petering is the lead vocalist and guitarist, Jason Wyman is the keyboardist and bassist, and Wyatt Harmon is the drummer.

Where can fans find official TV Girl merchandise?

Fans can find official TV Girl merchandise on their website , which includes t-shirts, vinyl records, and other items.

How can I find information about upcoming TV Girl concerts?

Fans can find information about upcoming TV Girl concerts on their website or social media pages.

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On the surface, TV Girl is a sunny, throwback splash of ‘60s French pop and southern California soul. Yet, under that shiny veneer lays a dark heart, beating with sharp wit and cynical alienation, and the music is all the more alluring for it. TV Girl, comprised of Brad Petering, Jason Wyman, and Wyatt Harmon, was formed in 2010 by Petering as an outlet to blend the love of Spector-esque girl-group pop with an emerging interest in hip-hop. Featuring shimmering vocals and sampled beats, the self-titled debut EP of the same year turned heads online immediately; the group’s lush vintage rhythms and timeless pop hooks were even making waves on the BBC. They continued to release increasingly popular EPs and mixtapes between tours.

In 2014, TV Girl unveiled their first full-length, the critically acclaimed French Exit. The album keeps true to the TV Girl charm with a bevy of electronic samplings infused throughout light and airy guitars, whirring organs, and ethereal vocals. However, this record is not all summer nostalgia, and there are plenty of times where French Exit reads like disaffected fiction. The moody characters in these songs are fueled by revenge as often as love, underpinned by desperation and a deep yearning to connect.

Their 2016 follow up, Who Really Cares, finds the band doubling down on their heavy use of samples. Combining the aesthetic of 90’s hip hop with modern psychedelic pop, Who Really Cares offers a glimpse into the psyche of a love scorned twenty-something.”

TV Girl’s latest album, Death Of A Party Girl, sustains the dream pop, neo-psychedelic feel of previous work. Petering delivers prosaic storytelling in third-person narration, recounting tales of wistful, romantic flings and mini-dramas starring various shades of the archetypal manic pixie dream girl. The songs are echoing and surreal, cut with samples of dialogue from movies and radio shows that convey a grainy, vintage feel. Standouts include “King of Echo Park,” its beachy vibe conjuring images of skinny palm trees, graffitied skateparks, and humming lowriders; “7 Days Til Sunday”, a swaying, upbeat bop where the narrator reminisces of rooftop parties and one night stands in Manhattan; and the intoxicating “Every Stupid Actress.”

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History [ ]

The band was formed in 2010, by Brad Petering, as a way to "blend a Spector-esque girl-group pop with an interest in hip-hop". [2] In June 2014, they released their debut album,, titled French Exit . [3]

Channel [ ]

The channel was created on July 27, 2011, and began uploading on the same day, with the first video being a music video for Baby You Were There . [4] On August 10, 2018, they uploaded their now most-viewed video, showing a music video for Blue Hair . [5]

In June 2023, their main channel and the topic channel were merged, gaining almost 190,000 subscribers in a span of two days. [6]

On their channel, they upload videos for their music, [7] along with vlogs. [8]

Members [ ]

Current members [ ].

• Brad Petering (2010–present; lead vocals)
• Wyatt Harmon (keyboards)
• Jason Wyman (drums)

Former members [ ]

• Trung Ngo (2010–2013; vocals)
• Joel Williams (2011–2013; vocals)

Discography [ ]

Studio albums [ ].

• French Exit (2014)
• Who Really Cares (2016)
• Death of a Party Girl (2018)
• Grapes Upon the Vine (2023)

Extended plays [ ]

• TV Girl (2010)
• Benny and the Jetts (2011)
• Lonely Women (2013)
• The Night in Question: French Exit Outtakes (2020)

Channel milestones [ ]

Note: The following dates are according to Social Blade . Dates may vary by one or two days due to differences in time zones.

Subscriber milestones [ ]

• 10,000 subscribers : February 4, 2022 [6]
• 100,000 subscribers : June 16, 2023 [6]
• 200,000 subscribers : June 17, 2023 [6]
• 300,000 subscribers : September 18, 2023 [6]
• 400,000 subscribers : December 12, 2023 [6]
• 500,000 subscribers : February 11, 2024 [9]

References [ ]

• ↑ https://thevogue.com/artists/tv-girl/
• ↑ https://www.masqueradeatlanta.com/attraction/tv-girl/
• ↑ https://tvgirl.bandcamp.com/album/french-exit
• ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsKf03P6EA
• ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QroQ3Wpu2js
• ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 https://web.archive.org/web/20240119232338/https://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/UCakexY9Khc2vKLgrf29svzQ/tv%20girl%20-%20topic
• ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afAl6e8r_mw
• ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fpdtt_ElWM
• ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20240414153800/https://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/UCakexY9Khc2vKLgrf29svzQ/tv%20girl%20-%20topic
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